BEWILDERED BLACK SCIENTOLOGISTS BUMBLE AROUND INGLEWOOD
INGLEWOOD
CA: 12/31/2017: Protester Nasty Nathanial meets
a lot of Black Scientologists and none of them know what
to do about him in Inglewood CA. They do not even like having
their window displays photographed from the street.
Sadly, some of these people gave all their money to the
Church and now work as slaves.
Special thanks to my patrons for making this video possible:
Stoned Scouser B. Butler Michael Sanders Ian de
Renzi Duncan Jack Anderson Nancy Timyan Vince Scola
JPF Ruth Urbigkeit Idi Amin
NEW TWIN PEAKS
GALLERY PAGE RAID 2017 PART 1 - THE SHELLY MISCAVIGE
PROJECT
MAY
2017: Going where Heterosexuals fear to tread Scientology's
secret vault @ Twin Peaks CA is raided by Angry Gay Pope,
Nasty Nathanial and GI Jenny. We are all Homosexuals and Jenny, as her name implies, is ex-military. This is where missing Scientologist
Shelly Miscavige is believed to be "held." There is much
spooky about the Church's concentration camp. The huge fence,
the metal spikes, the guards. Eventually four police cars
show up and we are dog-piled by San Bernardino county deputies.
RAID 2017 PART 2 - SAN BERNARDINO DEPUTIES ARRIVE EN MASSE
MAY
2017: San Bernardino deputies swarm a Scientology prison
camp and 'secret vault' over three Gay protesters looking
for a missing person believed to be held there. Shelly
Miscavige (left), wife of cult leader David Miscavige,
has been missing for about a decade and is thought "stored
here." It is strange that deputies will rush to the
scene of this minor incident while ignoring the human
rights abuses that go on inside the borders of this
fenced in compound. The grimaces on the faces of the
cops says it all. They know they are caught on camera
over-reacting. If they had devoted this much manpower
to finding Shelly Miscavige she would be on the "Tonight
Show" by now.
PARADE OF CHRISTMAS IDIOCY AT L. RON HUBBARD'S WINTER WONDERLAND
2017 VIDEOS MISSING DUE TO YOUTUBE CENSORSHIP
DECEMBER 5, 2017: Oh gawd! Jesus
Christ! Has nothing to do with the absurdity of this Hollywood
Scientology Xmas. Calling the cops twice in one Christmas
parade, women using a baby as a camera blocking prop, a
Parade employee sneering at the Church. Tis the season!
And so more much to come as Dec. 25 nears!
COMING SOON: LOTS OF SO CAL COPS WHO ARE NOT LAPD GET MORE
AIRTIME
LAPD HELPS PROTESTERS TAKE DOWN POTENTIALLY ILLEGAL LICENSE
PLATE READER
DECEMBER
5, 2017: Nasty Nathanial and Johnny Five-O
(lef), two "cop block" protesters, take down an illegal
license plate camera the Church of Scientology uses to spy
on its neighbors. These cams are not illegal, but putting
one in the crook of a public tree IS. Taxpayers have literally
been supporting the Church's efforts to snoop on whoever
drives past their massive Los Angeles compound. Could this
be a more constitutional issued involving the LAPD doing
the right thing
The cameras remover is a really
hot Sci security guard dubbed "McDreamy." Sigh!
Why
does a church need a license plate reader? To identify protesters
who may drive by in a car. They also act in co-ordination
with local law enforcement. Say someone in a stolen car
drives by their camera. The security system flags the stolen
vehicle by its license plate. Then the Church can call the
cops and snitch on a bad guy, making themselves look good
in the process. It helps them force the police to overlook
their constant human rights abuses.
This process
is known as "safepointing," ingratiating themselves to the
local powers that be in order to safeguard Scientology's
reputation in the community.
When the protesters
returned a few days later the camera was still gone. For
now.
Johnny Five-O Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXJixv1PeVLEF7yitWWeJNQ
COMING SOON: CHRISTMAS CRAZY AS ONLY CULTS CAN!
COP WATCH PROTESTER AND CULT GUARD ALEXI FISTFIGHT ON HOLLYWOOD
BOULEVARD TWO PROTESTERS ARRESTED ON FILMSY CHARGES BY BIASED
LAPD
DECEMBER 7, 2017: Last night 12/6
cult guard Alexander "Alexi" Solomko was involved in an
altercation with "Cop Block" first amendment 'auditors'
Ohio Guardian and California Guardian. Their auditing, a
form of constitutional testing, has nothing to do with Scientology
auditing, a form of talk therapy. Alexi got in their face
outside the Hollywood Guarantee Building at 6333 Hwd. Blvd.
That is what these guards are programmed to do. Alexi became
aggressive even though the protesters were not blocking
egress/ingress. The protesters got right back in his face,
shining their cameras at him from inches away. He responded
by blasting the protesters with a high intensity flashlight.
When the protesters took this away from him the scene devolved
into a fistfight in the middle of Hollywood Boulevard.
The protesters called the police who then reportedly
took Scientology's position unquestionably and acted in
a very biased manner. CA Guardian was arrested and later
released on his own recognizance. The other, Ohio Guardian,
was charged with a felony for "stealing" the flashlight
temporarily. Felonies are for things that cost over
$400 which the flashlight almost certainly did not. You
will see the video on
AngryGayPope.com
once they have legally okayed its release. Ohio Guardian,
who is visiting from the Buckeye State, must come back to
CA for a court date.
"Cop Watch" protesters
go to various governmental locations and do a "loud investigation"
of them, meaning they make sure the location knows it is
being surveilled by their cameras. Often they wear ominous
outfits.
PS watch hypocrite journalist Tony Ortega
ignore this story simply because I broke it :)
COMING SOON: LAPD HELPS PROTESTERS TAKE DOWN ILLEGAL LICENSE
PLATE READER
L. RON HUBBARD WINTER WONDERLAND UNDER CONSTRUCTION ON HOLLYWOOD
BOULEVARD 11/2017
SEXY SCIENTOLOGY SLAVES WALLOW IN PLASTIC HOLLYWOOD SNOW
NOVEMBER 2017: Classic Angry Gay Pope! Anonymous
protesters descend on the L. Ron Hubbard Winter Wonderland on
Hollywood Boulevard in 2017. Scientology slaves are seen coated
in fake snow or wearing plainclothes security uniforms and all
of them look HOT HOT HOT.
The lone female Scilon looks
like a Barbie doll. Another steaming sexy Hollywood Boulevard
Christmas just one day before the big parade. So the paid off
schills for the Church were out in force.
THANKS TO
PATRONS WHOSE NAMES ARE RECORDED IN THE PRESENTATION.
cult guards accused of impersonating security guards/police
officers
GUY
FAWKES DAY (NOV V), 2017: In Hollywood on Guy Fawkes
Day 2017 Scientology guards Andy Knapp and Odo Huber are accused
of impersonating security/police officers. Why? The uniform.
Church guards never wear anything that can be used to identify
them and they have only generic security patches on their shoulders.
In CA security guards are required to have: 1. Badge on left
breast 2. Shoulder patches on BOTH sleeves identifying the company
they are employed with 3. Identifying name tag/name plate/badge
number Lack of any one of those components is a misdemeanor.
The security company can be fined up to $5,000 as well, esp.
if the guards don't have the proper credentials. Carrying a
weapon like pepper spray or a taser (as Odo is doing right now)
is a FELONY. They do that all the time too.
Also, their
uniforms are usually a solid color instead of alternating colors
as in a true security guard as seen in the image below. The
Welles Fargo guard is dressed legally and standing around being
impotent, while the Scientology guards are dressed illegally
and are shoving some local transient against a wall for 45 minutes.
RAW videos have a cold open and are not edited. It is a continuous
take.
ANGRY GAY POPE'S WORK ALL OVER LATEST LEAH REMINI SHOW
SEPTEMBER 12, 2017: My 2009 photos of
Gold Base filled about thirty
seconds of time on Leah Remini's latest episode of Scientology
Aftermath. It was a kick to the gut to the viewer AND
the cult. That's because the story is so shocking and the sight
of my photos in another major venue must irk the great leader
mightily. Hopefully cult guard
Danny Dunagin
will be punished "agin" for letting that famous ultra barrier
photo (right) get taken at all.
This
story is shocking because Gary "Jackson" Morehead (left) admitted
he designed and built the security apparatus at the prison camp.
He was basically the head of security at Auschwitz "Scientology
style" and it has since crushed his soul. Or Thetan. Admitting
to recapturing about three hundred escaped Scientologists and
being part of the Church's "coerced abortions" campaign he almost
can't get through the interview without Leah's help. Gary contacted
me anonymously years ago after I took the famous ultra barrier
photos at right and they went global and on Wikipedia. He was
very helpful explaining the history of the security fence. It's
part of what makes my section on
Gold Base so
interesting.
They even buried underground sensors beneath
the fence to alert them to folks digging their way out. But
desert gophers and rodents kept doing their natural thing and
it disrupted the system and sent out false alarms. So they gave
up on the idea of monitoring the underground.
Even though
they were all going to hell at the time.
EASTER
2017 RELEASED AUGUST 2017: Gaythiests vs. cult security
on Hollywood Blvd Easter 2017. Angry Gay Pope and Nasty Nathanial
meet Scientology guards Angel, Franck Paolo and Andy Knapp.
Plus everyone's sexy favorite Denise the Body Routing Hubbard
whore. Much enturbulation was had by all as cultists were mercilessly
mocked.
Nasty Nathanial reveals he has the power to make
cultists disappear simply by getting tattoos of them on his
body somewhere. He offers up missing bike guard Parker Osmon
as an example. Will sexy security hunk "Angel" be next???
The
Church is a living "situation comedy" where this hilarious video
gets its jokes from. No "news" is broken, although the
video is educational to those who don't know that "Scis work
every day." The appeal is strictly from the sharply drawn
characters, absurd situations and comedy of it all. AKA a situation
comedy.
NEWS: SCIENTOLOGY WHISTLEBLOWER
REMINI DEMANDS
FBI TAKE ACTION AGAINST HER FORMER RELIGION
LEAH REMINI & PALS AT IT AGAIN ON a&E
AUGUST
2017: Leah Remini and her crew of suppressive persons
are at it again with a second season of
Scientology And The Aftermath on A&E. It was their
best premiere in years. One smear campaign and two Emmy nominations
later it is time for season two! Last season I was paid
for use of various videos and photos. This year I'm getting
a credit. Will this be the second Emmy winning show I
have been associated with? Only time will tell! In this
brief video Remini admits she can be quite the jerk and has
attitude problems (being thrown in the ocean, worked as a child
slave, and forced to starve till she ate crumbs out of toaster
crumb trays to survive will do that.) For more on the
show
just click here!
INTRO TO MY HOLLYWOOD ANIMATION CAREER
JULY
30, 2017: Fans know my videos sometimes have pro quality
animation. Why? Because I'm an Emmy winning feature film animator.
This video shows some of the work of animated in my Scientology
protest videos and then segues into a teaser for my upcoming
video about my Hollywood animation career. To give you a little
idea about how complicated video production can be, this is
the edit decision list for a single video. Shows with
3d animation get far more complicated than even this. For details
on the movies I've done
just click here.
SCIENTOLOGISTS PUNISHED FOR WORKING ON SUNDAY
JULY
2, 2017: Originally recorded in October, 2016,
this video was finally released now. When the cult followed
my friend Nasty Nathanial on the way to protest with me he bailed.
That made me mad. So I went to Scientology's most evil, lawyer
filled building on earth and protested loudly. I reminded them
that even though I am a homosexual on psych meds I can still
ruin their Sunday for working on what should be a 'religious'
holiday.
The cult thinks Gays like Nathanial and I are
a danger to society and deeply flawed. I reminded my Gay handler
Steven Meyer that they have more than enough imperfections themselves,
especially considering people pay them a LOT of money to remove
such flaws. People have even been told that if they study enough
Scientology they won't need glasses.
For more on the Hollywood Guarantee building, shown
at left, go here.
PATRON: I LOVE THE ANGRY GAY POPE!
JUNE
11, 2017: At the 2017 Gay Pride Parade and #resistmarch
I met a wonderful Gay man from Beverly Hills who supports my
fight against the Church of Scientology. He explains why he
does it and why you should too! Each of his remarks is illustrated
with a brief B&W video clip.
Cameo appearance by
Kirstie Alley. Erf. She is an American Horror Story.
ANOTHER ESSENTIAL AGP INTERVIEW: 13'OCLOCK PODCAST ANGRY GAY
POPE UPDATE
cl
JUNE 13, 2017: Turn your clocks to 13 for the
EXACT AND CANONICAL AGP interviews. Not just fans, these two
are addicts of mine. Because they live in Florida they have
had ample opportunity to watch Scientology in action.
Grab hold of your e-meters and prepare to body route your
thetans (or something), because the Angry Gay Pope has returned
to give an update on what’s been going on in the wild, wacky
world of Scientology! Hear all about AGP’s stealth raid of the
Inglewood org, the latest gossip about sexy cult security guards,
and the possibility of Shelly Miscavige being held prisoner
at the Twin Peaks secret base, plus lots more hilarious anecdotes
and digressions. Fetch a tall glass of milk in which to dip
your Oreo cookie of supremacy, and prepare for an extra-special
episode 43 of the 13 O’Clock Podcast!
COMING: Angry Gay Pope and Nasty Nathanial Visit Twin Peaks
"Secret" Vault
MAY 28, 2017: I, Nasty Nathanial and protester
GI Jenny visited the Twin Peaks Secret Vault where L. Ron Hubbard's
words are stored on metal plates to survive World War III.
It's also the location rumored to be the location missing Scientology
Shelly Miscavige may be held, possibly against her will.
This spawned the protest "The Shelly Miscavige Project."
They called the San Bernardino sheriff's deputies on
us and the authorities sent four cop cars and five officers
(one a supervisor). They detained us so long, and with
so many officers, that we told them they could have found missing
Scientologist Shelly Miscavige by now if they had looked.
PREVIEW: Sexy Riverside Deputy Praises Scientology @
Gold Base
A sexy Riverside deputy defends Scientology and this may make
some viewers angry. But, as the coming video will show, from
his point of view he is RIGHT. The Church has license plate
cams to scan for scofflaws and shares that info with the police.
Also, the cop has no jurisdiction inside their compound. His
job's concern is the safety of people in the area. So, from
his point of view, he is correct. Scientology calls this "safepointing."
Ingratiating themselves to the local police, politicians and
community leaders in hopes they will spread the good word about
the Church to the community.
Aftter all, if you were
operating an illegal marijuana grow room in your home would
you host loud drunken parties? Of course not! You would be a
model citizen.
NEW PHOTOJOURNALISM GALLERY: INGLEWOOD
IDEAL ORG AND COMMUNITY CENTER
CLICK HERE
ANGRY GAY POPE'S WORK ON LEAH REMINI'S
SHOW FOR SECOND SEASON
Leah Remini's new show will be using more of the Angry Gay
Pope's photos and videos, esp. recordings of the Church's
legal workers. To celebrate I remind Scientologist Capt.
Handsome and the other Hubbard Whores at the Hwd. Info Ctr.
of this fact. Loudly. They are beautiful young Scientologists
and will no doubt remember this day for years to come. In
therapy sessions. If they ever get over their pathological
fear of Psychiatry.
INGLEWOOD COMMUNITY CENTER INFILTRATION
JANUARY 16, 2017: Two protesters wander
at will in the Scientology Inglewood Community Center. The ultra-sensitive
Church will no doubt be furious that we had the run of the place.
As part of a real estate scam the building looks like it has
not been used in the five years it has been open.
AT&T
is paying the Church to use the building as a cell phone tower.
Do you think the cultists who were pressured to buy and refurbish
the building will get a cut of that money? Forget it!
The place features broken video kiosks, a security car with
a flat tire, computers running Windows XP (security risk) and
logs showing almost nobody is coming in for courses.
The Church boasts that they are growing exponentially, but everything
at this Community Center says otherwise.
COMING SOON: The Scientology
Inglewood Community Center gets infiltrated
INGLEWOOD IDEAL ORG INFILTRATION
JANUARY 16, 2017: All White religion
Scientology is visited on MLK Day in Black neighborhood of Inglewood,
CA. Most of their members were out marching in the MLK Day parade.
That meant protesters the Angry Gay Pope and his assistant Nasty
Nathanial were able to wander free in this, the Church's largest
service center in Inglewood.
Sadly, the place was full of broken museum displays, pushy
guards, overpriced books and photography bans. But it was still
hilarious!
Coming soon the nearby Inglewood Community Center, the Church's
largest public event space in Inglewood, will get the same treatment.
More on Inglewood
Scientology click here.
SPECIAL THANKS TO PATRONS Crazy Navy Jeff Stoned Scouser
Idi Amin Anne Marie & Ruth
November
27, 2016: This video was shot in 2016 and edited
and released in 2017. Scientology Hollywood is furious over
the unveiling of a second billboard urging members to call their
families. Just blocks from cult property, Phil and Willie Jones's
project to try to communicate with their kids is now in it's
THIRD billboard opening.
VALENTINES
DAY 2017: Every man I keep trying to protest
Scientology with ends up falling in love with them! First protester
Anonorange fell for a cultist named "Anti-Shirtless Lady" (redhead at right) on Hollywood Boulevard. Now my
friend Nasty Nathanial is having a similar but homoerotic crush
on Scientology cult bicycle guard Parker Osmon (he's a cutie).
Nasty Nathanial has decided to take his obsession to a strange
new level, as viewers of this Valentine video will see.
ANGRY GAY POPE ON 'CELLAR DOOR SKEPTICS'
I
stop by the Cellar Door Skeptics to chat about all things Scientology:
How and why I got involved with protesting, the Church and celebs,
plus whether all of American society is experiencing the same
problems the Church has.
Scientology is the religion
of money and has become a giant, corporate cash sucking machine
with all benefits going only to the top 1%. Has the same thing
happened to America? We hash it out.
Feel frustrated when the super-rich Church of Scientology
bitch slaps society and the government doesn't care?
Now you can do something about it! Just donate to
me, the Angry Gay
Pope. I'll take the heat for you.
I've become the main Los Angeles Scientology protestor
and investigator. You'll be sticking it to the Scis
while you help fund the Pope's daily enturbulation affirmation.
What is enturbulation? You'll know it when you see
it in my videos. And they are pretty slick. It takes a lot
of time to edit the implosion of the Church of Scientology
into entertainment Besides making hilarious and educational
videos I've exposed the Church's illegal work conditions,
the cops they pay off and secret cult locations like Twin
Peaks that few media visit.
I've been documenting
the history of this bozo religion's decline since 2008.
My videos have a lot of conflict and yelling in them but
fans tell me they watch them to RELAX. Relax??? I
think they like seeing an all powerful organization exposed
and made fun of by just one (very motivated) guy. This is
an in-your-face look at America's most infamous and powerful
cult. You'll meet bozo Church guards, befuddled slaves,
major Church figures and the worst lawyers in the world.
Plus Kirstie Alley's oversized butt.
My work
is included in major Wikipedia entries, seen in local newscasts
around the world and used in several European documentaries.
And it's all stored for posterity on my website
AngryGayPope.com.
You can donate in increments of $5, $10 and $15 dollars
which are pledged monthly and you can cancel at any time.
So don't slip into a lower condition of withholds. Be at
cause over MEST (matter energy space and time) by donating
today!
Since 2008 hundreds of different people have
donated safely and securely over the Internet without any
interference from the Church.
INGLEWOOD
CA: 12/31/2017: Protester Nasty Nathanial meets
a lot of Black Scientologists and none of them know what
to do about him in Inglewood CA. They do not even like having
their window displays photographed from the street.
Sadly, some of these people gave all their money to the
Church and now work as slaves.
MAY
2017: San Bernardino deputies swarm a Scientology prison
camp and 'secret vault' over three Gay protesters looking
for a missing person believed to be held there. Shelly
Miscavige (left), wife of cult leader David Miscavige,
has been missing for about a decade and is thought "stored
here." It is strange that deputies will rush to the
scene of this minor incident while ignoring the human
rights abuses that go on inside the borders of this
fenced in compound. The grimaces on the faces of the
cops says it all. They know they are caught on camera
over-reacting. If they had devoted this much manpower
to finding Shelly Miscavige she would be on the "Tonight
Show" by now. 
DECEMBER
5, 2017: Nasty Nathanial and Johnny Five-O
(lef), two "cop block" protesters, take down an illegal
license plate camera the Church of Scientology uses to spy
on its neighbors. These cams are not illegal, but putting
one in the crook of a public tree IS. Taxpayers have literally
been supporting the Church's efforts to snoop on whoever
drives past their massive Los Angeles compound. Could this
be a more constitutional issued involving the LAPD doing
the right thing 
GUY
FAWKES DAY (NOV V), 2017: In Hollywood on Guy Fawkes
Day 2017 Scientology guards Andy Knapp and Odo Huber are accused
of impersonating security/police officers. Why? The uniform.
Church guards never wear anything that can be used to identify
them and they have only generic security patches on their shoulders.
In CA security guards are required to have: 1. Badge on left
breast 2. Shoulder patches on BOTH sleeves identifying the company
they are employed with 3. Identifying name tag/name plate/badge
number Lack of any one of those components is a misdemeanor.
The security company can be fined up to $5,000 as well, esp.
if the guards don't have the proper credentials. Carrying a
weapon like pepper spray or a taser (as Odo is doing right now)
is a FELONY. They do that all the time too. 
SEPTEMBER 12, 2017: My 2009 photos of
This
story is shocking because Gary "Jackson" Morehead (left) admitted
he designed and built the security apparatus at the prison camp.
He was basically the head of security at Auschwitz "Scientology
style" and it has since crushed his soul. Or Thetan. Admitting
to recapturing about three hundred escaped Scientologists and
being part of the Church's "coerced abortions" campaign he almost
can't get through the interview without Leah's help. Gary contacted
me anonymously years ago after I took the famous ultra barrier
photos at right and they went global and on Wikipedia. He was
very helpful explaining the history of the security fence. It's
part of what makes my section on
EASTER
2017 RELEASED AUGUST 2017: Gaythiests vs. cult security
on Hollywood Blvd Easter 2017. Angry Gay Pope and Nasty Nathanial
meet Scientology guards Angel, Franck Paolo and Andy Knapp.
Plus everyone's sexy favorite Denise the Body Routing Hubbard
whore. Much enturbulation was had by all as cultists were mercilessly
mocked.
The
Church is a living "situation comedy" where this hilarious video
gets its jokes from. No "news" is broken, although the
video is educational to those who don't know that "Scis work
every day." The appeal is strictly from the sharply drawn
characters, absurd situations and comedy of it all. AKA a situation
comedy. 
AUGUST
2017: Leah Remini and her crew of suppressive persons
are at it again with a second season of
JULY
30, 2017: Fans know my videos sometimes have pro quality
animation. Why? Because I'm an Emmy winning feature film animator.
This video shows some of the work of animated in my Scientology
protest videos and then segues into a teaser for my upcoming
video about my Hollywood animation career. To give you a little
idea about how complicated video production can be, this is
the edit decision list for a single video. Shows with
3d animation get far more complicated than even this. For details
on the movies I've done
JULY
2, 2017: Originally recorded in October, 2016,
this video was finally released now. When the cult followed
my friend Nasty Nathanial on the way to protest with me he bailed.
That made me mad. So I went to Scientology's most evil, lawyer
filled building on earth and protested loudly. I reminded them
that even though I am a homosexual on psych meds I can still
ruin their Sunday for working on what should be a 'religious'
holiday. 
JUNE
11, 2017: At the 2017 Gay Pride Parade and #resistmarch
I met a wonderful Gay man from Beverly Hills who supports my
fight against the Church of Scientology. He explains why he
does it and why you should too! Each of his remarks is illustrated
with a brief B&W video clip. 
JUNE 13, 2017: Turn your clocks to 13 for the
EXACT AND CANONICAL AGP interviews. Not just fans, these two
are addicts of mine. Because they live in Florida they have
had ample opportunity to watch Scientology in action. 
November
27, 2016: This video was shot in 2016 and edited
and released in 2017. Scientology Hollywood is furious over
the unveiling of a second billboard urging members to call their
families. Just blocks from cult property, Phil and Willie Jones's
project to try to communicate with their kids is now in it's
THIRD billboard opening. 
VALENTINES
DAY 2017: Every man I keep trying to protest
Scientology with ends up falling in love with them! First protester
Anonorange fell for a cultist named "Anti-Shirtless Lady" (redhead at right) on Hollywood Boulevard. Now my
friend Nasty Nathanial is having a similar but homoerotic crush
on Scientology cult bicycle guard Parker Osmon (he's a cutie).
Nasty Nathanial has decided to take his obsession to a strange
new level, as viewers of this Valentine video will see.
I
stop by the Cellar Door Skeptics to chat about all things Scientology:
How and why I got involved with protesting, the Church and celebs,
plus whether all of American society is experiencing the same
problems the Church has. 
